I’m thinking about getting the MSI Claw 8 AI+ as my main handheld gaming device, but I’m unsure about real‑world performance, thermals, and battery life compared to other options like the ROG Ally or Steam Deck. I’ve seen mixed reviews and don’t want to waste money on something that might underperform. Can anyone share honest long‑term experiences, issues to watch for, and whether it’s actually worth buying right now?
I’ve had some hands‑on time with the Claw 8 AI+ and own a ROG Ally and a Steam Deck OLED. Short version, it works, but it feels like a first‑gen try from MSI compared to Asus and Valve.
Performance
- At 1080p, Performance preset, FSR on, you get roughly:
• Cyberpunk 2077: 35–45 fps on Medium
• Elden Ring: 45–55 fps on Medium
• Apex / Fortnite: 60+ fps on Medium to High - Intel Meteor Lake iGPU is close to Z1 Extreme in many titles, then falls behind in some UE4/UE5 games due to drivers.
- Driver issues still pop up. Random stutters, odd frame pacing. Intel is improving, but it is not as mature as AMD on Ally or Deck.
Thermals and fan noise
- Claw 8 AI+ sits around 25–28 W in its “gaming” profile.
- Outer shell gets warmer around the grips than Ally. Not burning, but you feel it after 30+ minutes.
- Fans get louder than Steam Deck OLED, similar or slightly louder than Ally at high TDP. Higher pitched noise too.
- If you lock it to 15–20 W you drop temps and noise a lot, but performance falls under Ally in many games.
Battery life
- 80 Wh battery is a plus on paper, but Intel’s efficiency lags AMD in games. Real numbers from my use:
• 25 W gaming: about 1.7–2 hours
• 15 W gaming: 2.5–3 hours
• Light indies at 10 W: 4 hours or a bit more - Steam Deck OLED at 15 W often lasts longer in the same games even with a smaller battery. Valve’s power management is better.
- Ally is similar to Claw at same wattage, but Ally tends to hit the same fps at a lower TDP, so you can stretch the battery a bit more.
Ergonomics and screen
- Claw 8 AI+ feels more like a small Xbox controller with a screen. Grip is solid. Heavier than Ally and Deck though.
- 120 Hz 1080p panel looks sharp. For AAA you end up running 720p or 900p with FSR a lot to keep fps stable, so the 1080p is not always used fully.
- Touch and Windows control are fine, but MSI’s software launcher is rough compared to Armoury Crate or SteamOS.
Software and ecosystem
- Steam Deck OLED wins if you want something that works out of the box with minimal tweaking.
- Ally has more polished tools for TDP, fan curves, and controller mapping than MSI right now.
- Intel Arc drivers still feel like work in progress. Some older DX11 titles behave worse than on AMD. Newer DX12 stuff tends to run smoother.
How I would pick:
- Get Steam Deck OLED if: you want plug and play, strong battery for indies and AAA at 40 fps, best thermal comfort, and do not mind lower raw performance and 1280x800.
- Get ROG Ally (Z1 Extreme) if: you want higher fps at 1080p, more mature AMD drivers, better balance of performance and battery, and you are ok with tweaking.
- Get Claw 8 AI+ if:
• You value the big battery,
• You like the grip and weight is not an issue,
• You are fine living with Intel driver quirks and waiting on updates,
• You got a good discount. At full MSRP I dont think it is worth it over Ally or Deck.
If your goal is “main handheld” for everyday gaming, I would rank them:
- Steam Deck OLED for overall experience and comfort
- ROG Ally for raw performance on Windows
- Claw 8 AI+ only if you accept being the beta tester type and you find it cheap.
If you want it as your main handheld, I’d be cautious with the Claw 8 AI+ right now.
@boswandelaar already covered the raw perf pretty well, so I’ll hit the decision side and a few spots where I see it differently.
1. Real‑world performance vs Ally / Deck
- In practice, the “Intel is close to Z1 Extreme” thing is true on paper, but the experience is less consistent.
- Where the Ally feels “set it to X watt, get Y fps and it stays there,” the Claw tends to have more random dips and weird frame pacing in some games, especially older DX11 stuff.
- That inconsistency matters more than the average fps if this is your daily driver. It can look fine in benchmarks and still feel jank while actually playing.
Where I slightly disagree with @boswandelaar:
If you mostly play newer DX12 / UE5 / modern AAA, the Claw is not that far behind the Ally in a lot of titles. If your library is heavy on older PC classics, MMOs, jank DX9/11 ports, I’d personally go AMD every time.
2. Thermals & comfort
- Higher‑pitched fan noise and hotter grips are a bigger deal long term than people think. That “it’s fine” feeling can turn into “my hands are sweaty and this whine is annoying” after a week.
- The fact you kind of need to drop it to 15–20 W for comfort means you’re basically running in the zone where the Ally and Deck are already very well tuned. In that wattage band, the Claw’s advantage mostly evaporates.
If you play 1 to 2 hour sessions on a couch, the Deck OLED is still way more comfy. Ally is kinda “hot but manageable.” Claw is like “hope you like a hand warmer.”
3. Battery and efficiency
Numbers @boswandelaar gave line up with what I’ve seen, but here’s the key takeaway:
- Big battery + weaker efficiency = you are paying in weight without fully cashing out in extra playtime.
- At the same fps target, you usually need more watts on the Claw than on the Ally or Deck. That kills the theoretical 80 Wh advantage.
If you want something you can throw in a bag, play on a commute, and not feel like you need a charger strapped to it, the Claw is not the king of that hill. Deck OLED still wins that “portable console” feel.
4. Software & “main device” reality check
For a secondary toy that you like to tweak, the Claw is kinda fun. For a main handheld, I’d think about:
- How much do you actually want to mess with drivers, profiles, and random quirks?
- Are you ok with Intel’s “it’ll get better later” story? Because you’re basically buying into that promise.
MSI’s launcher and Intel’s software stack are just not at the same maturity level as SteamOS or even Asus’s stuff. It’s usable, but it feels like you’re joining an open beta.
5. When the Claw 8 AI+ actually makes sense
I’d only seriously recommend it as your main device if:
- You’re getting a big discount compared to Ally / Deck. Like, real money saved, not 20 bucks.
- You mostly play modern DX12/AAA and are fine running 720p/900p with FSR, not obsessing over pixel peeping at 1080p.
- You like the chunkier grip and do not mind extra weight and warmer shell.
- You’re the type who doesn’t panic at driver issues and is happy trying new Intel drivers every few weeks.
If that does not sound like you, the safer picks are:
- Steam Deck OLED if you want “it just works,” best thermals, and great battery at 40–45 fps, and you’re fine with lower res and tweaks for Windows-only games.
- ROG Ally (Z1 Extreme) if you want high fps on Windows, better efficiency at the same wattage, and more polished tools than MSI, even if Armoury Crate has its own annoyances.
If I had to rank them as a main handheld right now:
- Steam Deck OLED
- ROG Ally Z1 Extreme
- Claw 8 AI+ only if the price is too good to ignore and you’re ok being an unpaid beta tester.
tl;dr: The Claw 8 AI+ is interesting, but as your primary handheld, it’s a bit of a gamble vs the Ally and Deck unless you knowingly want to live on the “early adopter, Intel driver adventure” side of things.
If you’re eyeing the MSI Claw 8 AI+ as your main handheld, I’d decide based on how you actually play rather than raw charts, since @vrijheidsvogel and @boswandelaar already nailed the numbers.
Where I see the Claw 8 AI+ actually shine
Pros
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Big 80 Wh battery
Not magic, but if you are OK running at 10–15 W, it is decent for long indie / retro sessions on the couch. In that narrow use case, the heavier weight matters less, and you can actually enjoy that extra capacity. -
Grip and feel
If your hands are on the larger side, the Claw 8 AI+ is one of the more comfortable Windows handhelds to hold. The Ally can feel more cramped over time. Steam Deck OLED is still king for comfort in my view, but the Claw is closer to “console controller with a screen” than the Ally. -
Intel feature set outside gaming
If you also want to do light productivity, media, some AI toys, the Meteor Lake platform has nice quality-of-life stuff: decent media engine, low idle power, snappy desktop feel. As a tiny Windows PC it is actually pleasant. -
120 Hz 1080p screen
Not always fully used in AAA, but for older titles, emulation, and fast indie games, 1080p 120 Hz looks great. If that is most of your library, the screen becomes a real selling point.
Cons
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Consistency > peak performance
This is the big one. @vrijheidsvogel hinted at it: the Claw can get “good benchmark numbers” but still feel less stable due to Intel driver behavior. If you hate random hitches more than you hate slightly lower fps, that is a red flag. -
Wasted battery potential
I slightly disagree with both others here: I do not think the 80 Wh is a real advantage for typical AAA handheld gaming. The extra capacity mostly pays for Intel’s weaker efficiency and extra heat. If your focus is 20–25 W gaming, you are basically hauling weight for parity, not for longer sessions. -
Heat in the grips
If you play 2+ hour sessions, the “hand warmer” effect becomes tiring. For short bursts it is fine. As a main handheld used daily, I find the Steam Deck OLED’s cooler shell much easier to live with long term. -
Software maturity
MSI Center M and Intel Arc drivers together still feel like a stack you have to watch. If you want a device you hand to a non-techy friend and never touch settings again, this is not it. That is where Deck OLED and even the Ally feel more “finished.”
How I’d decide between Claw 8 AI+, Ally, Deck as MAIN device
Instead of ranking them, think in profiles:
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You want “console-like,” minimal tweaking, and long comfy sessions
Steam Deck OLED still wins this scenario. Lower resolution is less important than stable 40 fps, great controls, quiet fans, and smart power management. -
You want Windows, tweakability, and high fps at 1080p without constant driver roulette
ROG Ally Z1 Extreme fits here. @boswandelaar already covered that it tends to hit the same fps at lower wattage. That translates directly to cooler device and similar or better battery life in practice. -
You want a chunky Windows handheld, like to tinker, and are OK being on the Intel “driver adventure”
This is where the MSI Claw 8 AI+ makes sense. Especially if:- You get it at a real discount
- Your library is mostly modern DX12 / newer games and not a pile of old DX9/11 titles
- You care about 1080p for emulators, older games, and media
- You do not mind testing each new Intel driver to see what it breaks or fixes
If you read what @vrijheidsvogel and @boswandelaar wrote and thought “that sounds like a hassle,” then the Claw 8 AI+ is probably not the right pick as your main handheld. If you read it and thought “that sounds fun, I love to tweak,” then with a good price it can actually be a very enjoyable, if slightly chaotic, device.